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Talking Dead with Ambrosia: After & Inmates


Warning: Spoilers Ahead
The usual disclaimer: You know how Talking Dead works. Since the point of the post is as if I’m in the conversation taking place on the show, clearly I will be talking about the episode. Ergo, if you have not yet watched it, you’re going to be pissed if you read this.

Now that I’ve gotten than out of the way, can I just say about Inmates:
CAROL! Oh my God! *flails*  I know she’d be back. A little later than I’d hoped/anticipated. I mean, I wanted her to show up for the battle, maybe be one of the heroes, and she did say that she came back at the end, so in a roundabout way I got my wish.

But let’s start at the beginning.
After was a little too ‘boring’ to write about on its own. I know it was rich in information, but it spoke for itself. It seemed extraordinarily fitting that the first people to reunite were Michonne and Rick and Carl. Carl, as per usual, couldn’t stay in the house, otherwise he’d still have both shoes.  I was happy to see Michonne’s past, I was happy to see her not give up. And being that I find Danai Gurira absolutely beautiful, seeing her in her old life, glam and lovely, was great.

Other than that… yeah. I have nothing to say about that episode. No major opinions other than what was stated above. Moving on to Inmates.

First off, most episode titles have had a bit of a tongue-in-cheek meaning, and I’m still working this one out. Yes, there was the close up of the ‘hitchhikers may be escaped inmates’ sign, and yes, technically, everyone walking in the area had escaped the prison, just trying to figure out if there’s more to it than that, like a freedom thing, like they’re free from…what?

Jim Gaffigan nailed it with the whole episode being about forgiveness. Truth-bomb.

If you saw a sign promising sanctuary for all, would you trust it?
Probably not. Especially now, coming so quickly off the Woodbury thing. I’d be like, forget that, it’s a trap! I don’t think I’d ever go back to any kind of village or community. I’d keep my own people close and that’s it. Never again.

So, Hardwick had me cracking up with his comments about Lizzie: “She will kill you in your sleep.”  “I finally found my passion.” She has definitely become…hardened in this time. Listening to her parrot all the things that Carol taught her, but in less of a teaching method and more of a robot voice, was just odd. I honestly thought she was going to kill Judith. I can’t tell whether or not she intended to when she had her mouth covered or if she really was just trying to keep her quiet. “She was trying to silence that baby.” Yeah, for good. She clearly can’t stop at just bunnies.

Maggie and Glen’s search for each other contrasted with Tyreese and Sasha’s search is pretty interesting. I agree that there’s a pragmatism about it. Maggie and Glen are operating emotionally. Tyreese and Sasha are both like “My brother/sister is tough and he/she is fine. We’ll find him/her.” And with that, with this whole mentality of ‘let’s survive and keep moving forward,’ it adds to the drama surrounding Karen. Will part of him realize that whoever killed Karen thought they were making the right choice? I’m dying – dying – to find out if he is ever going to find out that it was Carol and that’s why she was gone. I mean, Rick, Daryl, and Maggie are the only ones who know. Carol’s not going to say anything, and I’m sure if they all meet up, Daryl won’t. That leaves Maggie and Rick.

Alanna Masterson may have summed up my entire feelings on a baby during the zombie apocalypse. No one needs a crying, zombie-attracting, not-at-all-independent baby around. It’s just… it’s a bad decision. And really, how many people have all of our survivors killed in order to save them in the long run? How is a baby any different? It all goes back to when Lori was pregnant in the first place.

Lizzie and Mika = Merle and Daryl? Wow. Excellent observation, person who commented on Twitter (Hardwick said your name too fast for me to properly credit you, sorry). I think I can see that similarity. One bossing the other around, maybe a little too violent and hard for their own good.

If Beth wasn’t there to motivate Daryl, do you think he would have just given up?
I don’t think Daryl would give up, but I agree with Joe Kernen, that he’d just regress to his old anti-social self. I feel like right now he’s just questioning having so many ties to people, and just thinking about how so much of what he’s been through lately might have been avoided if he’d just stayed alone. His offhand comment to Beth about how faith didn’t help Herschel… ugh. So cold but it probably wasn’t intentional. All the same, if he never formed these relationships, he wouldn’t be here.

I wonder if Daryl and Beth will come across Carol and Tyreese next? The smushed grapes that Daryl & Beth found while tracking and then the group of walkers feasting by the tracks, I’m assuming those are the same grapes Mika stepped on when she ran away, and then that area by the tracks, those walkers are probably eating the guys that had been bitten and mauled but the walkers that Tyreese tried to fight off. Right? So how far behind Carol and Tyreese are they?

Similarly, is the entire season going to be leading up to Terminus? The promo shots tend to be something of an easter egg, and it used to be Rick standing at a torn-down fence. That all made sense in the long run. Now it’s Rick and Carl walking along the tracks. The tracks are obviously important, and now this whole Terminus thing…

Abraham, Rosita, Eugene.
I have no major opinion on them, having not read the books. At some point, I feel like maybe I should, but I feel like I’d just get confused with two different stories happening (I decided to look up some stuff about Carol in the Walking Dead Wiki once, and yeah…completely different story there, especially how she ties in to Lori, Rick, Michonne, Tyreese) or I’d start being like a lot of other people who get pissed when they don’t match. Anyway, I want to know if they have anything to do with Terminus?

Sneak peak: I feel like they’re getting worse and worse with the sneak peak cliffhangers. DAMN, just give me another second. Or, edit it like a trailer. Cut out whatever she sees and just show me her reaction. Give me something!


Talking Dead with Ambrosia: Too Far Gone


Warning: Ahead be Spoilers
 And lots of them.  By now you all know Talking Dead, and if you don’t, you’re an idiot, you know it talks about the episode that just aired, and since I’m posting here as if I’m in that conversation, clearly I will be talking about the episode. I’m gonna go ahead and make this extra long just in case you ignored the warning and you’re glancing down anyway, just trying to make sure you don’t see anything that you’re not “supposed” to, so that you can’t turn around and bitch and complain that you saw spoilers here. If you’re still reading now, anything from here on out is your own fault, suckas! 

This was… wow. Okay. Where do I start? I’m jumping ahead of Talking Dead and I just want to discuss the show, like, live.
First off, the little pep talk that the Governor gives his people – and make no mistake about it, telling Hershel not to call you the Governor doesn’t suddenly make you not the Governor. Lily is starting to see through him, which is great. From that exact moment I started to get a little tingly.

Daryl’s reaction to Carol was a little…anticlimactic. But I imagine at that point he’s just like, well, it’s done. There’s not a whole lot I can do about it now. I like that he decided to go tell Tyreese, and didn’t just send Rick to go do it. Lauren Cohan’s feeling that Daryl wanted to be part of the decision makes a lot of sense, and I agree that it’s an excellent point that when the Governor showed up, Rick was suddenly, ‘I don’t make the decisions, the council does.’ Well… Carol was part of that council. She made a decision. You’re the one who vetoed it. So… Who makes decisions?

By the way, has anyone figured out if Michonne was on the council?

“I have a tank!” Okay, Guv’nah, if we’re done measuring penis sizes here, can we get on with things? The speeches that the Gov and Rick delivered to each other were poetic, and honestly, I would be interested to see them all trying to coexist n the prison together. Almost like a revisitation to the beginning of Season 3, when we first meet Axel, Oscar, Andrew and their douchebag leader. Anyway, the best part of that whole thing was this overwhelming sense that you knew – you just knew – someone was dying in the next five minutes.  Scratch that, the best part was Daryl taking the bin of guns, all ‘doo-de-doo, nothing to see here,’ while he’s arming everyone.

Once again though, the more important of a character you are, the more dramatic of a death you have to have. Hershel bravely trying to drag himself away, despite knowing that he was done for… Even though I knew it was all coming… I jumped at every swing of that sword. Tara and Lily were both like, ‘uh, no, I’m good,’ at this point, which, again, made me feel tingly. At this point I wondered if they would run to the prison camp for protection, and maybe to join them. Either way, it’s obvious at this point we’re having a moment similar to the end of Season 3,  after the Gov has gunned everyone down, and they find Karen and she explains what happened to Tyreese and Sasha.

Not sure what was up with all the storm-trooper firing, these people couldn’t hit shit. I couldn’t believe that the bus left, but then again, they had to do what they had to do, right? Good on Lizzie for that headshot. Sweet revenge by Michonne, though I would have preferred her to take out his other eye first, then run him through. My friend that I was watching with suggested that she should have cut off his arms and jaw and made him her new pet. I was actually expecting Carl to shoot the Governor off Rick, similar to the way he saved Rick from walker Shane back in Season 2, but this works. Michonne had to have a hand in taking the Gov out, it was only right. And it was fitting for Lily to pull the final trigger, literally and figuratively. The way he just put Megan down without a word, no sympathy, nothing, when Lily brought her to him… it was good for her to be the one to go, okay, boom. Loved Carl kind of losing his shit for a second thnking Judith is dead, a good foil to Rick losing his mind after finding out Lori was dead.

However, they’re all scattered again, similarly to the end of Season 2, with the exception being that in 2, they all headed off in the same direction (except Andrea). We’ve got:
1. Michonne. Where the hell did she go after helping Rick?
2. Rick and Carl. And Rick is wounded. Pretty badly. Carl’s got the only weapon.
3. Daryl and Beth. Both armed, both unscathed.
4. Maggie, Sasha, and Bob. All armed, but Bob’s got that gunshot wound.
5. Tyreese, Lizzie, and her sister. Everyone’s in one piece, I believe. But are they in the prison? Lizzie said they had to defend it.
6. Judith. Um… where did she disappear to?
7. The other 2 kids that were previously carrying Judith
8. Bus full of randos and Glenn
9. Tara and Lily

With everyone separated, where does that leave us? And there’s still the ultimate unknown out there, Carol. Will someone run into Carol? Melissa McBride is still part of the opening credits, with I know doesn’t sound like a big deal, but keep in mind that Sonequa Martin-Green (Sasha) is still in the post-break credits, implying that she’s not a regular character, despite the fact that she’s been in every episode this season (except the obvious ones where no one from the prison was), and once again, she’s on the council. Then again, David Morrissey, ended up in the opening credits, even though he was only in three episodes, plus a 15-second appearance in one more.

A funny moment on Talking Dead, all the praise for Jeffrey DeMunn as Dale… he said he wanted to leave in solidarity with the exit of previous director Frank Darabont, and then he changed his mind, but the producers were like, no, fuck you, you’re out. And…isn’t Robert Kirkman one of those producers?

I can’t even begin to get into how moved Lauren Cohan was by the whole thing, but I did even comment to my friend, about that ‘last dinner’ that they all have together on the last day of shooting with whoever died? I bet that one was really emotional. I can’t imagine it not. And it goes to show what a fan favorite Hershel is that his death nearly overshadowed everything. I mean, other than the fact that the prison is lost and everyone is scattered, was anything else in that episode as important? Even the excitement over the Governor dying doesn’t quite quell the pain.

I think the idea of the ‘one-two’ punch for the Governor’s death is very satisfying. Everyone got their licks in that needed to, although I think Daryl and Maggie deserved a shot at him too. David Morrissey definitely brought such… such je nais se quoi to the role that you can’t help but like him, then you hate that you like him, so his death had to be a dramatic send off. It would have felt empty if it was quick.

Questions: Why did the Governor want the prison after saying it wasn’t safe last season?
Well, in agreement with both Robert and Lauren, yes, the Gov just needed something to do, something to take over, and yes, anything with walls is better than what he had now, and he only thought it was unsafe compared to what he had in Woodbury.  However, my opinion is that he didn’t think the prison was safe and defensible, but then he saw that it was when he attacked it. For all we know, at that point he already decided on the prison as a back-up plan if necessary.

I was happy that they pointed out that the walker they zoomed in on at the end was Clara, because we had forgotten about, my friend and I. We turned to each other and said, “Lori?” “Janis Joplin?”

So the first half of the season has ended with us still not knowing what the deal is with the rats, but yet raised a further question of who the f is dissecting them? And what exactly does Bob have in that box of his. Booze? Rats? Furthermore, what came first, the rats being fed to the walkers, or the rat that was autopsied?

All I know is this, February 9 can’t come fast enough.


Talking Dead with Ambrosia: This Sorrowful Life


Warning: Here be spoilers. If you are familiar with the Talking Dead, you know it talks about the episode that just aired, and since I’m posting here as if I’m in that conversation, clearly I will be talking about the episode.

I’d like to open by saying, wow, I’m kind of stunned that Merle went out like that. And how badly do we all want to take Darryl in our arms right now and hold him close? Also, what’s more dangerous than a walker? Answer: One with a blade for a hand, that’s what.

I want to know what YOU guys think regarding the poll question:

I personally feel he’ll be cold and withdrawn. Maybe a mix of going crazy like Rick, but where Rick went nuts immediately, I think it’s going to come out of Daryl randomly.

I adore David Morrissey for the simple fact that he really is so quiet and charming, and then he plays this evil son of a bitch – who bites off people’s fingers! Jeebus Christmas he’s crazier every episode.

Discussion: Glen proposed to Maggie!
Seriously, it was adorable, even though it was so ‘eh’ by him just pushing the ring into her hand, it was really pretty amazing in the sense that he doesn’t have to ask. They were both on the same page so much that words were unnecessary. Zombie apocalypse or not, the two of them, even while in the middle of a fight, have been so in sync with each other (I almost typed nsync, haha) that it almost didn’t matter what was going on around them. A lot of people say that Judith is the symbol of hope in the group, but I think it’s Glen and Maggie.

Discussion: The Governor chasing Andrea in the truck
What I want to know is, how the balls did the Guv’nah just get out of that warehouse and in the truck so fast that he was able to track her down. Also… WHY THE FUCK DIDN’T SHE TAKE THE TRUCK? (at this, I imagine they would all laugh, especially Reggie Watts)

Discussion: Rick
(Almost in reply to Greg Nicotero) I think Rick has changed the most this season than he has in any other. He was so much about saving his own people, and his own ass, that he wasn’t willing to let anyone else in, to coming full circle back to the person he used to be, the person he asked Herschel to be last season, the person who takes people in. He’s since come to realize that Michonne is part of the family, and much like High School Musical, they’re al in this together.

Discussion: Merle’s Death
First off, Michael Rooker is hysterical. Honestly, I don’t think I could have ever expected such an emotional response to Merle’s death. I think it was just the way he bit it. Had he gone down in a shoot-out or something with the Governor or some other survivor, maybe not as intense. Being taken out in such close proximity by the Governor, and then left to become a walker… ugh. Shot through the chest instead of the head, so awful. Daryl’s reaction – from the second he realizes his brother has turned to falling on the ground after killing him – was definitely the most beautiful thing I’ve seen Norman Reedus do. I mean, that first scene when he takes crying Judith in his arms was pretty lovely, but this was just pure rawness.

“I know what I’m poking when I poke it.” – I just about died there. Little Merle.

Questions: What would Governor be like if family survived? Was the torture chamber for Andrea all along?
Honestly, after hearing his bitch-fest (which for all we know, isn’t even true) about how he was in this shitty job working for a toddler boss (and I’ve been there), it seems like he was power-hungry from day one, and I’m sure he would similar. Maybe not to the extreme he is, but certainly he would be shooting for leadership.
Initially, I thought the chair was for walkers, but I’m inclined to agree with Morrissey, that it was for Michonne, likely from the very beginning, when she and Andrea first came to town and she was suspicious of him. Then when he wasn’t able to get her, he turned the rage upon Andrea, in light of her recent betrayal.

And now, regarding the preview of the finale. Number one, that throbbing music that often follows the Governor is heart-poundingly scary. It has nearly the same effect of the theme song for the Halloween movies. It’s effing scary.
Also, since they bring up Milton, he’s clearly starting to stand up for himself. I think/hope that next week he’ll rescue Andrea and they’ll be on the run. That will be the end of the show. Might be similar to the way she met Michonne, they’ll be surrounded by zombies, and then… Tyrese to the rescue! I can only hope, anyway.

Okay, that’s all for Talking Dead with Melissa Limasse. See you next week!


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